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The curse of nineties gimmick rap

Posted on July 28, 2017December 5, 2024 by Robbie Ettelson

For all the great rap that the nineties gave us, there was thousands more CD’s that were nothing more than hot audio garbage.

1987 > 1994.

The curse of nineties gimmick rap

32 thoughts on “The curse of nineties gimmick rap”

  1. Paul H. says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    Pretty spot-on, though I do have a soft-spot for Fu-Schnickens. The first album isn’t half bad, and the second one has some great beats (they even got Diamond D to throw a few their way) although the gimmicky-schtick gets pretty insufferable at numerous points. “La Schmoove” is still a classic anyway.

    And there’s some serious poetic justice in that Flatlinerz atrocity going wood. After blackballing Prince Paul, Russel decided to not-so-coincidentally unleash his own “horrorcore” crew at the height of Gravediggaz’s shine, only to see his pet project, which nepotistically included his nephew, crash and burn. The Gravediggaz conceptually and artistically were so miles above the Flatlinerz, you almost feel bad for the latter. Still a shame the ‘Diggaz got tagged with that “horrorcore” nonsense, because they were so much more clever and deep than that. The only people I ever see defend Flatlinerz to this day are Juggalos and suburban white kids who need some sorta over-the-top violence and dumb horror cliches to enjoy any kind of rap records.

  2. Paul H. says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    Actually, the absolute worst group to manifest during the slew of Onyx/Das shout-rap rip-offs were The Cutthroats, who released this turd on the Menace II Society soundtrack and even roped in Guru to drop a verse somehow. It unintentionally comes across as a Spinal-Tap-level parody of bad mid-90’s hip-hop cliches, complete with a cringe-inducing Tweety-Bird reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CUGFBrWzcI

  3. Dino says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    @Paul H: You’ve got the Gravediggaz/Flatlinerz scenario the wrong way round. Gravediggaz was Prince Paul’s revenge for Def jam spiking Dew Doo Man Records/Resident Alien. Also I gather the link between Russell and Flatlinerz wasn’t all buddy-buddy/family like between him and Run. Not saying Flatlinerz were great or even slept on but that Gravediggaz was the sabotage/spite project in this case.

  4. Dino says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    @Robbie: As I tweeted, I feel it’s rather harsh and unfair to lump Fu Schnickens (Chip, Moc and Poc Fu) in with those no-hit-wonder gimmic acts. The latter two rappers were nothing to write home about but Chip Fu was amazing. I feel Fu Schnickens were let down by utterly generic and forgettable beats; especially on the second album. Also, the whole Buggs Bunny sample clearance thing didn’t help. I characterise Fu Schnickens more as a Novelty than Gimmick group.

  5. Paul H. says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    @Dino – I’m very aware that Gravediggaz was Paul’s revenge for all the industry nonsense, I thought that’s what I said (which is why I mentioned Russell blackballing Paul). One of the dude’s in the Flatlinerz was Russ’s nephew though, so there was definitely some nepotism going on.

  6. Paul H. says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    @Dino – I also didn’t mean to imply that Russ was trying to sabotage the Gravediggaz with Flatlinerz, merely that him unleashing his own “horrorcore” group at the height of Gravediggaz hype was more than a little suspect. Paul even mentions this in the Check The Technique chapter on the album.

  7. Microbreweries, m8. says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    Stop the denim shirt hate.

  8. Andy Kimber says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    Hoodratz “Sneeke Muthafukaz” was a real poor man Oxyx.

  9. Ben says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    It’s funny how people complain about rappers all sounding the same now but in reality thats always existed to some extent. The Onyx and Das EFX wannabes was basically the equivalent to all the Future copy cats today.

  10. Robbie says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    @Paul H: Agreed. The only good part of that story is that they were never allowed into a recording studio ever again.

    @Dino: I’m still sore that I spent money on money on their album, so at this point it’s more of a persobsl vendetta than an unbiased view of things.

    @Andy Kimber: The ‘Murdered Ova Nuttin’ remix had a great beat, at least.

  11. King Timeo says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    The daughters oh h.w.a. have reformed the group same slurry look same shifty raps

  12. Robbie says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    @King Timeo: Are the still called HWA? Is Baby Girl’s daughter named Baby Baby Girl? So many questions.

  13. MAAD says:
    July 28, 2017 at

    @Robbie: Chip-Fu is still in the studio making music, u can catch his updates on Instagram, his title says he’s 1/3 of the platinum plus group. I remember Nas brought him back to life on the “Where Are They Now?” 90’s remix

  14. Guapisimo says:
    July 29, 2017 at

    Mad Flava was another one of those gimmicky white groups riding off the House of Pain bandwagon. The 90s was a very “gimmick” sensitive era. I remember Mad Flava’s ad in the source acknowledging this with the slogan “The gimmick is, there is no gimmick”. The album wasn’t bad.

  15. Joe Marma says:
    July 29, 2017 at

    Lords of Brooklyn’s albums were not great but they could rap before they changed their style to a Beastie Boys/Dropkick Murphy’s hybrid look for their video ‘Bomb The System’. And Fu Shnickens were great Chip Fu still has it.

  16. Robbie says:
    July 29, 2017 at

    A couple more pro-Fu comments and the fellas will be ready to start a Kickstarter campaign…

  17. Caesar says:
    July 29, 2017 at

    The white guy doing the running man at the 20 second mark was the standard joke for gimmick rap videos back then.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9NddxciWbw

  18. Dino says:
    July 29, 2017 at

    @Robbie: (re Fu Shnicks doing a kickstarter comeback) Chip FU’s been threatening a solo album (“M.A.T.H.”) for years, if not decades. Can’t help but feel that if he really had it in him, he would have done so a decade or so ago. Bit like NY Oil/Kool Kim. The Flatlinerz were supposedly making a comeback but the stuff I ordered off their bandcamp never turned up so I call “swindle.”

  19. Robbie says:
    July 29, 2017 at

    @Dino: What possessed you to order something from The Flatlinerz Bandcamp page, if you don’t mind me asking?

  20. Dino says:
    July 29, 2017 at

    @Robbie: I like “it’s so bad it’s funny” gimmicky rap and it gets no more gimmicky than Flatlinerz (well I guess Fannypack are the most gimmicky rap group ever but still…). It was supposed to be a remastered “Under Satan’s Authority” with bonus tracks. Got a refund off paypal so no harm done (unlike Bob Perry/Ghostface who still owe me for “12 reasons to die” preordered via bandcamp).

  21. Step One says:
    July 30, 2017 at

    Listening back to old radio shows and mixtapes the Fuschnickens got a LOT of play in the mid 90s. I think with them it’s more a case of their stuff but having aged well. Alot of artists had a gimmick of some sort back then whereas now 90% of rappers wouldn’t dare do anything to stand out from the crowd.

  22. RBI says:
    July 31, 2017 at

    Chip Fu is dope

  23. Drew Huge says:
    August 1, 2017 at

    More than one track of Chip-Fu in a row is basically like having tinnitus.
    Unless I’m mistaken, I think the Lordz of Brooklyn had an office upstairs from the Ego Trip office in NY. I’m sure Mao mentioned they were up there. I’m not sure where this anecdote is going.

  24. Paul H says:
    August 1, 2017 at

    There was that DJ Shadow diss towards Lordz Of Brooklyn too on the original full-length “Entropy” (part D, I believe) where he mocks an early interview they gave. I think it was before they had actually released anything too.

  25. Foster Garvin III says:
    August 2, 2017 at

    Lordz Of Brooklyn had the one joint featuring The Ramm Ell Zee that was dope. Really, he was the highlight.

  26. Oneam says:
    August 7, 2017 at

    At this rate I’m gonna need a best of chip fu comp…

  27. Dino says:
    August 7, 2017 at

    @Oneam: Not so much a “best of,” more a case of “the first half dozen vids that came up on the #tube:”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWDcLZ8rxsc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWDcLZ8rxsc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWDcLZ8rxsc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFinilzQm5Y
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFinilzQm5Y
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBip4ZU0zPA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCKUjKiMC4Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBip4ZU0zPA

    Chip Fu/Schnickens haven’t really put out enough material to qualify for a Best of/greatest hits (although a Greatest Hits CD was released).

  28. Oneam says:
    August 9, 2017 at

    Cheers bro.

  29. KQ says:
    August 10, 2017 at

    Dino – Fanny Pack were garbage but I’d still rather hear ‘Camel Toe’than anything by Flatlinerz! Paul tells the Gravediggaz/Flatlinerz story here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApTn9n19XoY

  30. Dino says:
    August 11, 2017 at

    Here’s some recent Flatlinerz material:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlM9J8y1sis
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42oO3SQ1SLw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWxRpvlaO1o

  31. dolo says:
    August 14, 2017 at

    chip fu’s reggae joint was dope ..

  32. Stud_Dookie says:
    January 1, 2018 at

    Okay, terrible article. I would STILL rather listen to all of those groups (yes even Quo!) than the bullshit garbage mumble rap coming out today. So that renders this completely invalid.

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