20 thoughts on “No Country For Old (Rap) Men: The Pain of the Ignored Diss Record”

  3. LL “answered” Shan on “The Breakthrough” … “dogged out Pumas” and all that …

  4. Dres never responded to Freddie Foxxx, did he?? What was that about?

  5. One of my favorites (that Shan never responded to) was “Brooklyn, Blew Up The Bridge” by MC Mitchski

    Also can’t forget “The Showstopper” by Supernature (aka Salt N Pepa). Neither Doug E Fresh or Slick Rick answered that record.

    I remember hearing this one song back in the day. Can’t remember the name of the song or group, but they threw a little shot at Eric B & Rakim that went unanswered. All I remember is the song sampled the break from “Brother Green (The Disco King)” by Roy Ayers, and the line went “Said you could move the crowd, well move it…” Maybe @Robbie can refresh my memory.

    @Nic Orizaga I read somewhere (maybe a Robbie related interview too) that Freddie Foxxx stated he never dissed Dres. His reasoning (if memory serves me correct) is “he’d never diss a friend/brother/teammate?”

  6. On the song, “Gangsta’s Again” from Konexion album, Freddie Foxx specifically says ”
    Contemplating, ‘Who’s the next rapper I smash and smack silly’?/All excited because he got a deal, pre-Big Willy/Listen up, here’s a message to you Flavor Unit MC/you must me spelling emcee with an M.C./A-yo Dres, you can never ever be me/because you’re too whi-i-t-e/its not personal, you might get some fame now/you n-ggaz bout to feel the hot of the flame now”

  8. In ‘Like They Used to Say,’ Common said:
    “Hip-hop is getting strangled by this Puff Combs syndrome; N-gg-s Been Around The World acting like they never been home.”

    In ‘Long Island Degrees,’ Dave from De La Soul said:
    “I got questions about your life if your so ready to die.”

    I don’t think Puffy or Biggie responded. In fact, Common may have worked with Puffy later on. And, I understand these weren’t full out diss songs, but Common did say the man’s name, and Biggie was at the top of the game in 1996 when ‘Stakes is High’ came out.

  9. Following the last comment, Jeru said ‘My name ain’t puff and I ain’t got loot to waste’. But people wrote that they tried to get djs to blacklist his records. I think there’s a lot of smaller disses where a rapper mentions somebody or a crew but no obvious response followed. Plus they weren’t specifically whole tracks dissing one person. There’s a million sneaky subliminal disses too, which are out there.

  10. How about when Mesamjarz of Funk called out Tim Dog (RIP) about stepping to him at a club and Tim ran and hid, on their song “Flip The Script”?

  11. @GNG, the track is Funkmaster Wizard Wiz ‘I Ain’t Wid Dat’ – dope cut, produced by Ced Gee.

  13. Late Nineties Seemed like every second ‘underground’ song had a one or two line sneaky dis at puff / shiny suits whatever.

  14. @Rezza1

    AWWW MANNN!! I’ve had that song in the back of my head since 88. Never knew it was Funkmaster Wizard Wiz (Crack It Up) that dropped that. I just remembered that break, and that 1 line. Good lookin’.

  15. @ab

    I always thought de la were taking a swipe at the whole toughed out ny rapper genre not big specifically but you’re probably right.

    Also on that album they passed judgement along the lines of what kind of broads are you hanging with if they bait / set you up for a beat down or robbery… which was a scenario from a mobb deep track around that same time. I Always wondered if it was a subliminal go at them in particular (I’ll have to go back and listen to the album to find the exact line).

  16. @GNG…thank you for that clarification…I always thought there was some misunderstanding about when Dres dreamed he “was hard” on “U Mean I’m Not?” and then later Foxxx dreamed he “was soft” on the intro to the leaked version of “Crazy Like A Foxxx”…glad to hear this is NOT the case.

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