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No Country For Old (Rap) Men: Why Every ‘Greatest Rapper of All-Time’ Discussion Is Wrong

Posted on July 2, 2015May 7, 2024 by Robbie Ettelson

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No Country For Old (Rap) Men: Why Every ‘Greatest Rapper of All-Time’ Discussion Is Wrong

16 thoughts on “No Country For Old (Rap) Men: Why Every ‘Greatest Rapper of All-Time’ Discussion Is Wrong”

  1. silent minority says:
    July 2, 2015 at

    If any product is described as the greatest anything, it’s usually hype or an advertising gimmick. We’re told that any decent rapper has to believe himself to be the best to compete, but when the media and fans start buying into that it feeds the insecurities and power trips of many rappers.

    How can any rapper claim to be the greatest ever when he would never exist without those who came before him in which ever sub-type or style he himself belongs in? Similar to ‘self made millionaires’ or whatever, they usually claim total independence but didn’t the have teachers, any support, and did they give birth to themselves?

  2. Ben Jones says:
    July 3, 2015 at

    One thing I’ve learned is never have a greatest rapper discussion with 2pac, eminent, nas, or lil Wayne fans lol

  3. oskamadison says:
    July 3, 2015 at

    There is NO SUCH THING as the greatest MC of all time. Too many variables, too many eras, let it go, already…Nah, Tim Dog is the greatest…

  4. kapikap says:
    July 3, 2015 at

    Its like the greatest baseball player of all time is babe ruth, theres always someone better.
    Rundmc is the greatest as they brought more listeners to the hip hop culture than any other rap act out there.

  5. Caesar says:
    July 3, 2015 at

    Agreed. After listening to nothing but golden era albums for the last 8 months like an out of touch piece of shit, there’s just too may great rappers to make a top 5. On any given day depending on mood, weather, or system, it could be completely different.

  6. 357NYC says:
    July 3, 2015 at

    I think the answer lies in the pic above..

  7. sommer madness says:
    July 4, 2015 at

    There will never be the greatest of all time. These “GOAT” debates are based on opinions and bias. There’s too many rappers that can be considered great but like I said it’s all opinion.

  8. doughjoe says:
    July 4, 2015 at

    the only reason someone would say jay is the best is because someone else told them so.

  9. P_gotsachill says:
    July 5, 2015 at

    It’s like boxing so many greats in many weight divisions over the course of hundred years. However, most boxing fans champion Ali the greatest. So, there’s still always one greatest according to majority rule. Still though, fact? really?.

    If it’s possible to determine the greatest boxer can we use the same methods of deduction to determine in the future the greatest rapper ever. However i try to come to some sort of concrete conclusion it always boils down to subjective – fact.

    Maybe in a around about way im just repeating what Robbie already said in the article. Im confused. Fun subject, serious head fck.

  10. Robbie says:
    July 5, 2015 at

    @P: It’s easier to name the greatest in sport since you can base it on statistics and wins. Music doesn’t have that benefit.

  11. oneam says:
    July 5, 2015 at

    If I don’t over analyze it … Rakim. Easy!

    (Tomorrow it might be Krs One though)

  12. dj-monster-beat says:
    July 7, 2015 at

    TOP 5
    1. Big Daddy Kane
    2. Blastmaster KRS-ONE
    3. Kid Wizard Rakim
    4. T La Rock
    5. Kool Moe Dee
    6. Schoolly D
    7. Just-Ice
    8. Chuck D
    9. LL Cool J
    10. Ice-T

  13. dj-monster-beat says:
    July 7, 2015 at

    Alternative Top

    1. Grand Poobah (The Krown Rulers)
    2. King Sun
    3. MC Rell
    4. Gradmaster Melle Mel
    5. Percee P

  14. Dmfslimm says:
    July 8, 2015 at

    Reggie Noble is the goat. I base that on him never falling off. I can’t even think of a wack verse.

  15. Nappie Rash OZ says:
    July 16, 2015 at

    Top Ten
    1. Rakim
    2. Big Daddy Kane
    3. Kool Keith
    4. KRS One
    5. Chuck D
    6. Nas
    7. MF DOOM
    8. Melle Mel
    9. Schoolly D
    10.Rammellzee

    PeAcE…. Nappie Rash Melbourne OZ

  16. TYBO2020 says:
    July 16, 2015 at

    YOU ARE TOTALLY CORRECT..FAVORITES THOUGH..
    KRS-ONE
    PHAROAHE MONCH
    MOS-DEF
    BLACK THOUGHT
    BUSTA RHYMES
    WU TANG CLAN INCLUDING CAPPADONNA
    THAT’S MY FAVORITE 15..
    KANE
    RAKIM
    KGR
    CHUCK D
    AND LL ROUND OUT THE TOP/FAVORITE 20 FOR ME..

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