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Timeless Classics Or Only Classics For Their Time?

Posted on February 3, 2014December 24, 2019 by Robbie Ettelson

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Every now and then, one of these rap websites puts together a list along the lines of “The 30 Greatest Hip-Hop Albums of 1993” and such, which in theory isn’t something I should have an issue with. The reason I mention it is that a decent proportion of these albums – most of which are widely regarded as “classic” and important records – don’t exactly inspire me to dig them out of the shelves and throw them onto the turntable (or, if I’m feeling lazy, navigate to the folder on my hard drive). Is this simply due to the fact that I played that shit to death back when it was released? Or is it more of a case that some music outlives its usefulness?

Take De La Soul’s much discussed 3 Feet High And Rising, for example. While there’s no doubting the impact and originality that Prince Paul and Plugs 1, 2 and 3 brought to the table, I can confidently state that I have no intention to ever listen to that record in it’s entirety in the foreseeable future. That’s likely more of a reflection of my preference for anti-social rap with loud drums than anything else, but it’s an issue worth considering. Let’s take a look at the 1989’s greatest hip-hop albums according to ego trip‘s Book of Rap Lists for example:

1. De La Soul – 3 Feet High & Rising (Tommy Boy)

Was a big deal but the only De La album that there’s even a remote chance of getting rotation at CRC HQ in 2014 is De La Soul Is Dead, since “Afro’s” got a slammin’ beat…

2. Beastie Boys – Paul’s Boutique (Capitol)

Some great breaks on here, but I wasn’t really checking for the Beasties by the time this dropped so I never really connected with this tape in any meaningful way, seeing as though I was too busy listening to EPMD and the Geto Boys. I’d rather bump the lost cut “Scenario” or “It’s The New Style.”

3. Jungle Brothers – Done by the Forces of Nature (Warner Bros)

This was great when it dropped, especially the title track and “J. Beez Comin’ Through.” Still holds up well as an under-appreciated part of the Native Tongues puzzle.

4. Big Daddy Kane – It’s a Big Daddy Thing (Cold Chillin’)

Still amazing, although Long Live The Kane remains as the most consistent Kane LP. The live version of “Wrath of Kane” makes this essential.

5. The D.O.C. – No One Can Do It Better (Ruthless)

The title track and “Grand Finale” still win. “Beautiful But Deadly” is still just as shitty as it was in 1989.

6. Geto Boys – Grip It! On That Other Level (Rap-a-Lot)

One of the greatest rap albums ever made, the Def American version still gets regular play.

7. 3rd Bass – The Cactus Album (Def Jam)

Well-produced album let down by the less than thrilling verbal technique of Serch and Pete Nice. Could be that I’m just White Rapper Racist.

8. 2 Live Crew – As Nasty as They Wanna Be (Luke)

These guys kinda got played out after the first album, but it’s tough to front on any record with a song titled “The Fuck Shop.”

9. Nice & Smooth – Nice & Smooth (Fresh)

If you don’t fux with this dynamic duo, I feel sorry for your mother. Fronting on this is like fronting on Jesus, to paraphrase Smooth B.

10. Biz Markie – The Biz Never Sleeps (Cold Chillin’)

Without assists from Marley and Kane, this is pure Biz Markie insanity, for better or worse. Always good for a laugh, but tough to pick this over Goin’ Off given the choice.

11. EPMD – Unfinished Business (Fresh)

This was the state-of-the-art, cutting edge sound of 1989 as far as I’m concerned. It sounded about five years ahead of it’s time back then, and still holds up as a timeless classic, although Business As Usual is better overall.

12. Queen Latifah – All Hail The Queen (Tommy Boy)

I’m still a big fan of “A King And Queen Creation”, “Dance For Me” and “Wrath of My Madness”, but not sure if I could sit through this from start to finish anymore.

13. L.L. Cool J – Walking With A Panther (Def Jam)

In line with the accepted CRC party line of the time, I didn’t mess with this album at all, since I was still recovering from the trauma of hearing “I Need Love” on Bigger and Deffer, and everyone knows that songs about love are effin’ teh ghey. Apparently it had some joints on it, but I doubt I’ll ever force myself to own a copy of this, let alone listen to it.

14. Special Ed – Youngest In Charge (Profile)

I’ve never owned a copy of this, although I have the singles. I guess the whole Teen Rap Idol thing kinda put me off.

15. Chill Rob G – Ride The Rhythm (Wild Pitch)

This still gets a lot of love at Unkut HQ. Still holds up remarkably well thanks to those timeless 45 King beats and Chill Rob’s advanced lyrical gymnastics..

16. Low Profile – We’re in This Together (Priority)

WC was a lot more entertaining on the MADD Circle stuff, but the beats and scratching make this worth a spin every now and then. “No Mercy” was my shit.

17. MC Lyte – Eyes On This (First Priority)

Call me misogynistic if you will, but I never bought any chick rap albums except for the first Salt ‘N Pepa, Latifah and anything involving Roxanne Shante. Only Lyte song I own is “10% Diss.”

18. Three Times Dope – Original Stylin’ (Arista)

Everything about this album is essential, from the beats to the raps to the concepts to the slang to the Jordan 3‘s on the cover.

19. Stezo – Crazy Noize (Fresh)

Thanks to strong production, this record is still decent. The 12″ version of “Freak The Funk” was the highlight.

20. Boogie Down Productions – Ghetto Music: the Blueprint of Hip-Hop (Jive)

As much as I appreciate KRS exploring ska breaks, this was just filling in time until Sex and Violence dropped.

21. Ice-T – The Iceberg/Freedom of Speech…Just Watch What You Say (Rhyme Syndicate)

This LP was pretty good, but I still prefer the first two in terms of nostalgia value. Ice’s schtick was wearing a little thin by this point, although “New Jack Hustler” and the OG album were a great return to form. Special mention to the inner sleeve of this record though, which contained an intricate collage of photos of Ice with a veritable who’s who of rap royalty and various on tour fuckery.

22. Willie Dee – Controversy (Rap-a-Lot)

The pinnacle of Shout Rap, and possibly the greatest CD ever released by Rap-A-Lot. I still play this at least once a month.

23. Heavy D & the Boyz – Big Tyme (Uptown)

No disrespect, but I was never a fan of the Hevster.

24. Sir Mix-a-Lot – SWASS (Def American)

Is this the one that has “Square Dance Rap” on it? I’m gonna have to pass on this one too.

25. Kwame – The Boy Genius featuring a New Beginning (Atlantic)

Aw hell naw…

Bonus: Kool G Rap & DJ Polo – Road To The Riches (Cold Chillin’)

Listed as an 1988 album in the book, but the label says ’89 so I’ll include it here. The first three tracks are incredible, but loses focus halfway through with “Cars” and “She Loves Me, She Loves Me Not”. G Rap’s second album is a far superior package.

In summary, if I could choose five 1989 releases from this list, I’d go with Willie Dee, Geto Boys, Three Times Dope, Chill Rob G and EPMD.

29 thoughts on “Timeless Classics Or Only Classics For Their Time?”

  1. turtle says:
    February 3, 2014 at

    I Need Love was on Bigger and Deffer. Walking With a Panther had other shitty love songs on it.

  2. Sam Paul says:
    February 3, 2014 at

    Nice article. I like the no bullshit, straight up. There’s quite a few ‘classics’ that I couldn’t listen to myself, so I relate to the sentiments.

  3. Robbie says:
    February 3, 2014 at

    Noted and fixed. Cheers.

  4. esto says:
    February 3, 2014 at

    Hey Robbie, your personal “Timeless Classics” article on deck?

  5. Robbie says:
    February 3, 2014 at

    Sure, why not. How many do you want listed?

  6. esto says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    Alright! As many as you want, but maybe 15-25?

  7. hotbox says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    I prefer “It’s A Big Daddy Thing” to Kane’s first LP and Stezo’s album still gets much play. Nice post.

  8. SR says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    Awesome article, you should do this for other years!

  9. Ben says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    Solid list the only one i’d disagree on is 3 feet high and rising that album still sounds pretty fresh today. I thought I was the only white person who was white rapper racist R.A., and Ill Bill are the only white rappers that come to mind that I really check for.

  10. Enig Mue says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    real good year for hip-hop, I pretty much agree with everything you said, especially Business As Usual being the superior EPMD LP but I don’t think SWASS is as bad as you think. It’s not all-time classic but the good stuff on it is Great.

  11. BKThoroughbred says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    Miss Me with that Paul’s Boutique!!!

    From this list right here, My number 1 would be easily D.O.C. this was road trip music for my many 3+ hour rides from BK to Syracuse and back.
    Then EPMD, 3XDope, Special Ed, and De La

  12. Truth Powell says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    BONUS BONUS

    The Chosen Ones – Enter the Lord

    Black Rock & Ron – Stop the World

  13. oskamadison says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    Great takes on those joints. However, imo, take those three wack love songs off Walkin With A Panther and it’s LL’s best joint. Never really felt that BDP joint productionwise, other than “You Must Learn” (Super Sperm for the win…)

  14. oskamadison says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    Shout out to my dude Chill Rob G, 14B legend. Ride The Rhythm is STILL that shit…

  15. OnkelMichael says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    The Too Poetic LP might shit on all of them.

  16. Robbie says:
    February 4, 2014 at

    Too Poetic dropped an LP in ’89? News to me.

  17. Wilizm says:
    February 5, 2014 at

    Miss me wit dat Willie D bulls¥!t. Everything else was good money.

  18. hotbox says:
    February 5, 2014 at

    Checked out Unfinished Business for the first time in at least a decade last night. The beats and P’s rhymes were mostly on point but I found myself either cringing or fast-forwarding through Erick’s verses. He didn’t find a way to make his lisp and marble mouth work for him until the next year.

  19. Chris says:
    February 5, 2014 at

    Pretty spot on, Robbie. Good work as usual. God Bless

  20. ceedub says:
    February 6, 2014 at

    By mentioning Three Times Dope, you made me think about a topic which could make an interesting list: shitty second albums by rappers/groups which made a great debut. 3xD qualifies for damn sure.

  21. lou says:
    February 6, 2014 at

    “a topic which could make an interesting list: shitty second albums by rappers/groups which made a great debut”

    I could’ve sworn Robbie already did that type of list (or something similar?) but i could be wrong.

  22. Robbie says:
    February 6, 2014 at

    @lou: I feel like I’ve done something like that too but can’t find anything…

  23. ceedub says:
    February 7, 2014 at

    http://www.unkut.com/2008/10/worst-follow-up-ever/

    Ok, you were right, here it is. Funny thing it seems I had suggested it back then… Our memories must be kinda fucked up.

  24. P_Gotsachill says:
    February 7, 2014 at

    What bothers me no Tuff Crew “Back To Wreck Shop”!/ in the Ego trip 1989 list? please explain. Sits very nicely alongside the incredible “Original Styling” “Ride The Rhythm”, EPMD or any Big Daddy album.

    Im usually one for loving debuts but “BTWS” was an incredible follow up to a superb debut.
    Id take “BTWS” over 85% of that 89 list. What about the other decent releases on LP format that year not included in list.

    Truth Powell mentions two albums above which could have made the list. I can think of a few others that I still reach for and play cos they are what I want to hear like forever regardless.

    No Tuff Crew? a B-Boy classic right there!

  25. 5 Grand says:
    February 10, 2014 at

    There’s a group from California that released an album in 1989. They wore all black and had jheri curls. I think they were on Ruthless Records. I can’t think of their name, oh yeah N.W.A.

    Maybe they deserve a mention of albums that came out in 1989…maybe

  26. Derrick says:
    February 10, 2014 at

    No straight out of Compton came out in 88 not 89

  27. dmfslimm says:
    February 11, 2014 at

    i love this site. i still pull out all these albums except chill rob g ,low pro, stezo and kwame. only because i dont have them anymore. i need that first latifah tho. the rest of the list is A 1.

  28. 5 Grand says:
    February 11, 2014 at

    @Derrick Strait Out of Compton came out in January of 1989. The single, Gangsta Gangsta came out in 1988 along with Eazy E’s album which also came out in 1988.

  29. sonny7 says:
    February 17, 2014 at

    Hey Robbie, does the ridiculously poor impression of an Australian accent at the start of ‘3 Feet ..’ have anything to do with the fact you never want to hear it again?

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