This piece has a really valid point kids now a days aren’t even gonna associate rap with what it originally started as.
Did you get hacked Robbie? lol…Nah but I gotta disagree…I think that “Hip Hop is JUST young people music” has hurt the culture and the art as time has gone on…yes Rap is still relevant but look at it…in a lot of ways its a joke now…we always said hip hop was a young art form but lets be real…its been 45 yrs since Herc threw that party in the Bronx…even if you go by when Sugar Hill Gang dropped your still knocking on 40 years…It was cool to say Hip Hop is a young art form and a young peoples music when the correlation between the age of the artist, fans and the music itself was pretty young…but now you got cats getting into hip hop and they could really care less about the art or the history..many don’t even like to be called rappers…lil uzi vert will cite Marilyn Manson as someone he looks up to…not run-dmc..not biggie…not j cole or kendrick…most the cats making mumble rap see hip hop as a quick way to make money if you have no talent…all u need is a catchy beat and hook…this thinking goes back to people who dismissed rap as people just talking over a beat..the crazy thing is hip hop was always more than just that but now it is living up to this preconceived idea of what the music is or was…
The shit you talk about is not Hip Hop Robbie, it unfortunately derived from Hip Hop but it has nothing to do with what Kool Herc was pushing back in the late 70’s. Nothing!
Also “Why would a teenager in 1995 trouble themselves with the genius of Ced-Gee when the delights of Only Built For Cuban Linx…were so readily available?”
Wrong…They did go back and were all too happy to acknowledge what came before them and build up there collection, today’s Trap/Mumble “Rap” goons are misguided and ignorant clowns devoid of any talent and just riding a wave of what is popular.
Sorry, but this article was a bit cringe-worthy.Both JMS and Jay pretty much summed it up.Kinda hard to take serious a white person telling us why ‘rap history doesn’t matter’. Still a fan of Unkut though.
@jay @JMS: Rap evolves into whatever it needs to be at the time. Melle Mel thought that guys like KRS-One and Public Enemy were trash when they played at Latin Quarter because they didn’t fit in with his idea of what good rapping was. I have my own idea of what rap should sound like and base the stuff I buy and listen to on that foundation.
The number of teenagers checking for old rap in the nineties wouldn’t fill-up a single train carriage, in my experience.
How quickly we forget how most adults reacted to the music we listened to in the eighties: ‘Turn that noise off! This isn’t music! It’s just a fad!’
The current state of popular rap music isn’t going to make your collection of Gang Start LP’s suddenly catch fire, so why bother getting mad about it? We don’t need any more Joe Budden’s outchea.
@DJ Blends: Can you be more specific?
This piece was just all over the place, hiphop history matter obviously, please drop the clickbait and edgelord trolling for next time. And heavy metal didn’t keep evolving since forever, “perfected long time ago” what was that about? You clearly haven’t been listening to it, so why even bring it up haha, have a good one peace
You can never dip your toe into the same river twice. Same goes for art and culture. Everything is in a state of flux. adapt or die. Jazz isn’t what it was in the 1950s. Rock isn’t what it was in the 1970s. Hip Hop isn’t what you thought it would be back in the 90s.
I was a teen in the 90s and did my best to know my shit and build what has become a massive rap album library (I was going to call it “impressive” but it’s only impressive to fellow rap nerds).
Kids these days are too busy having sex to the soundtrack of whatever’s streaming on Spotify/deezer to give a shit about Cold Chillin or some deservedly obscure b-side from some boring “real hip hop” “pioneer.” There are no record stores and hard copy recordings are for sad old men like me; not da yufe of today.
Again, all these types of articles overlook the role corporate American plays into hip-hop, which very much accounts for a lot of the changes in hip-hop over the past couple decades. Hip-Hop is now pop music (very much like how rock became pop music at a certain point), and there’s obviously been a significant change in the business of hip-hop since it’s start in the 70’s. Point being there’s obviously more at work than just “old people like this, young people like this”; it’s much more complicated than that, and I think comparing, say, Gang Starr with Lil’ Yachty is a false equivalency for various reasons (context is everything).
Look, I get that the “get-off-my-lawn” purist types are obnoxious as fuck, but let’s not make sweeping, regressive generalizations on some “hip-hop history doesn’t matter” nonsense. And there will always be young folks who will dig deeper into hip-hop’s history, as in those who are beyond casual fans of music (regardless of genre).
@Robbie I feel what your saying..I have no problem with Hip Hop evolving…but there’s a difference between natural progression and someone pushing a sound down your throat…natural progression is A tribe called quests 1st 3 albums..unnatural is Be, Finding Forever and then Universal Mind Control…
Also, My parents thought my music was noise cause they never heard rap before…difference between the youth and “Old Heads” now is we do know hip hop…we do understand it…we know what good and bad hip hop sounds like so the hate that a Lil Yachty may be getting just may be some Heads who have listen to hip hop their whole lives just making an honest call on the quality of music he makes.. to be honest it goes deeper than hip hop…most people in different genres are not feeling what is being made today because there is such a push to keep everything young but I remember coming up and Stevie Wonder and Pattie Labelle was still having hits several decades into their careers cuz Good music was Good music..the problem now ismost young people getting into music are really not music people so the love for the art isn’t there…cats just wanna be able to post a pic on instagram with them holding a stack of money to their ear…in the past for hip hop it worked…we forget Nas was 16 on Barbq…That Pete and
continued(accidentally hit the say it button lol) q-tip was in their teens when they changed not just the music but the way it was produced…Thats why I say trying to hold on to that “Hip Hop is young peoples music is a bad idea in 2017…
YO!!!! HIP-HOP WAS NEVER ON THE RADIO!!! Even back in the day (unless you were in NYC).
Sorry but any other genre of music this doesn’t apply one bit and you’re leaving out the fact that Hip Hop Music calls out WACK RAPPERS/SUCKER MCS!
Trap Music is NOT Hip Hop Music!
A White guy from New Zealand or Austria where ever you’re from doesn’t understand New York Music!!!!!!
I couldn’t disagree more with this article. YOU SOLD OUT,ROBBO! Go Back to listening to AC/ DC.
Agree about the corporate influence that has changed hip hop. Another factor is hip hop was always about renovating previous genre records (sampling and looping) from Herc to Biggie. Now cats and labels can’t afford to pay royalities because our generation (30+) killed profits when we first found limewire/kazaa. So artists had to create the “hip hop” sound and thus can’t achieve it so wack beats rule. Without the boom bap the MC can’t work (never agreed with guru that its mostly the voice!) Paul C must turn in his grave.
For the record @Robbie I may disagree with you on this but you have always repped for the real so I have no issues with you.
That was one of the few times in the history of the internet that I have enjoyed an article AND the comments section of a thing equally. I can see both sides, but I’m kind of with you on this @Robbie. Let the kids have their fun- jesus, it’s not like everything that came out in the 90s was amazing anyway. For every classic track there are three Igpayatlinlays, Helluvas or Black Vagina Findas. I’m not saying all these mumbling youths are any better, but like current slang, clubbing or chatting up girls in their 20s, they also arent any of my business. J-zone knows the score: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdmTob7GhVo
@ Robbie Rap evolves into whatever it needs to be at the time.
To me it’s DEVOLVING, there is no soul in it and most of these clowns can’t rhyme on beat or even pronounce words properly, the Industry has raped and abused Hip Hop for a long time that it has now got to the stage where all of the past rules to this game (don’t bite, be original, pay your dues, brush up on your skills) have been thrown out of the window.
The ignorance of wack, auto-tune using non-rhymers like Lil Yachty is mind boggling, they diss old music yet admit to only hear a couple of songs where there is a World of information right there at their fingertips.
But they prefer to act like coons and constantly show off their superficial BS while steadily killing off a culture they have no business being in and I’ll bet that @Paul H NEVER listens to horrible shit like Lil Pump and if he has I’m sure he hasn’t enjoyed it…that’s why we are as “obnoxious as fuck” brah, they are killing off a culture and art form that we hold dear to our hearts.
So in essence fuck the industry, fuck mumble rap, fuck trap and fuck anyone that defends this horrible shit made my truly talent-less clowns only looking for fame and money.
@Paul H: Agreed about the role that the music industry etc. has played in this, I should have addressed that.
Hip Hop history matters to a lot of us, but my point is that just because some new rap dude doesn’t know who Biggie is doesn’t invalidate their music automatically.
Funny how you all miss the point in the article. Well most of ya anyways! Why the fuck should we care bout commercial music? I don’t care if hot 97 calls it hip hop or rap or what not. Turn off the radio! Its almost as distasteful to see Joe budden wilding out bout 19 yr old mumblers not knowing a history they ain’t part of anyway. Paul H. U on point! The industry always fuck up what’s good! I don’t think that a punk listening to old Black Flag albums could give a flying fuck about Green Day. Cuz shit ain’t the same, no matter if its both called punk rock! Why should any of us over 30 dudes give a fuck? I rather listen to ROC Marci or Booze Bruvaz if I want some new shit! Not lil Uzi nerd! Keeping it CRC is not the same as whining over 19 year olds who only knows tupac! If ur best argument is the color of Robbie’s skin u just ignorant!
Why duz ‘Muricanz confuse Australia with Austria?
@Pete Concrete – Yeah, the punk comparison is pretty apt. Commercialization dilutes everything, but like hip-hop, there’s still great punk out there if you search for it, and like hip-hop (or any genre), there are a lot of tedious-as-fuck “purist” acts that think that having a great record collection automatically equals music that can compete with the classics.
Hip-Hop will thrive, and honestly, in a lot of ways, I think some of the best hip-hop in years has been coming out as of recent. Ka and Roc Marciano are two of the best dudes doing it, and it helps that they seem totally invested and laser-point focused in their art, rather than falling victim to Budden-style didacticism.
@Robbie
Melle Mel thought that guys like KRS-One and Public Enemy were trash when they played at Latin Quarter because they didn’t fit in with his idea of what good rapping was
Chris Rock also relayed a story that claimed that Furious 5 group member Melle Mel was a hater on legendary group Public Enemy, specifically when their classic Hip-Hop track open “Rebel Without a Pause” was released.
“Melle Mel get pissed the f##k off every time he heard that s##t because he thought Chuck was taking his s##t, and that motherf##ker would walk to the DJ booth and skip the record.”
@Wicked22: Cool story bro.
@Wicked22 – Coincidence that the 2 best Hip Hop Records recorded are “Rebel” and “The Message”
(Note – any kids reading this can google those tracks – real hip hop you see :-)
Why do people still get off on pretending to be me? smfh
Anyways, clowns like Lil Uzi Vert are NOT HipHop. And if Trap Music was HipHop it would be called HipHop. Not sure why there’s people out there that feel the need to label mumble fgts and trap crap as HipHop. And like JMS said, this shit is DEVOLVING and there’s literally NO SOUL!! Sad, but true. smh
“I remember coming up and Stevie Wonder & Pattie Labelle was still having hits several decades into their careers cuz Good music was Good music..the problem now is most young people getting into music are really not music people so the love for the art isn’t there” – jay
^AGREED!!
Why would you defend “cooning”? Lost Grown up Crack babies from the South ruining a beautiful music?
Now it’s fly to diss Real Hip Hop Music? And defend uncle toms with accents worse than Chicken George?????
The south ruined it more than big corporations. Country ass illerate Bamas who dress like girls.
Now it’s “cool” to defend them??????
Melle Mel is bi-polar by the way, he’s a horrible example.
Robbie: “This was shared in the Facebook comments: Ad Rock agrees”
Just cause it’s said by Ad Rock or ANY hip hop pioneer don’t make it the absolute truth or even right. One of the reasons rap music is the way it is now is cause of the young kids not doing the knowledge.
Are y’all still arguing over this? Have you no respect for the originators? Vanilla Ice will be spinning in his grave. We all know Miley Cyrus and Souljahboy Tellem birthed the 7 elements. I’m fed up with rap documentaries using that same footage of Ryan seacrest riding his Segway with the big speakers through the streets of Alaska where it all began.
Any one of the commenters lurking…who know me since xxl…know I’ve been saying for a minute now…contemporary rap will be the “new hip hop genre”…so industry can collect lost revenue from dormant publishing…hip hop fans can enjoy their 35+ years of cuts…and young heads can have their lane…radio has already adopted the format in many states…shoutout to Dallas Penn…xxlmag (when dp, Ron Mexico & Bol blogged)…bboycult…and killa mike (u can google the xxl blog mike did on this discussion)…where the music is has already been predicted…why the c-sections are empty too…
This shyt reads like DJ Wakademiks wrote it.
New and Young has no bearing on what’s quality or GOOD music.
Rosewood, Rosati, Hus Kingpin, Nick Grant and others are all NEW/Young rappers who rhyme in actual English and still sample. Too many cop out ass writers, fake @ss tastemakers and DJs settle for less and try and underplay the actual Hip Hop out for what’s popular.
Stop being sellouts and appreciate the good records that are CURRENTLY out!
@Robbie, I understand your piece. It was written “matter of factly.” Today’s rap audience does not care about the old school….but they should. The beef with today’s rappers is simply the fact that most of them cannot actually rap but the truth is, the biggest sellers are the ones who can. Kendrick, Drake and J. Cole are doing superstar numbers. They happen to be true students of the artform.
This piece has a really valid point kids now a days aren’t even gonna associate rap with what it originally started as.
Did you get hacked Robbie? lol…Nah but I gotta disagree…I think that “Hip Hop is JUST young people music” has hurt the culture and the art as time has gone on…yes Rap is still relevant but look at it…in a lot of ways its a joke now…we always said hip hop was a young art form but lets be real…its been 45 yrs since Herc threw that party in the Bronx…even if you go by when Sugar Hill Gang dropped your still knocking on 40 years…It was cool to say Hip Hop is a young art form and a young peoples music when the correlation between the age of the artist, fans and the music itself was pretty young…but now you got cats getting into hip hop and they could really care less about the art or the history..many don’t even like to be called rappers…lil uzi vert will cite Marilyn Manson as someone he looks up to…not run-dmc..not biggie…not j cole or kendrick…most the cats making mumble rap see hip hop as a quick way to make money if you have no talent…all u need is a catchy beat and hook…this thinking goes back to people who dismissed rap as people just talking over a beat..the crazy thing is hip hop was always more than just that but now it is living up to this preconceived idea of what the music is or was…
The shit you talk about is not Hip Hop Robbie, it unfortunately derived from Hip Hop but it has nothing to do with what Kool Herc was pushing back in the late 70’s. Nothing!
Also “Why would a teenager in 1995 trouble themselves with the genius of Ced-Gee when the delights of Only Built For Cuban Linx…were so readily available?”
Wrong…They did go back and were all too happy to acknowledge what came before them and build up there collection, today’s Trap/Mumble “Rap” goons are misguided and ignorant clowns devoid of any talent and just riding a wave of what is popular.
Sorry, but this article was a bit cringe-worthy.Both JMS and Jay pretty much summed it up.Kinda hard to take serious a white person telling us why ‘rap history doesn’t matter’. Still a fan of Unkut though.
@jay @JMS: Rap evolves into whatever it needs to be at the time. Melle Mel thought that guys like KRS-One and Public Enemy were trash when they played at Latin Quarter because they didn’t fit in with his idea of what good rapping was. I have my own idea of what rap should sound like and base the stuff I buy and listen to on that foundation.
The number of teenagers checking for old rap in the nineties wouldn’t fill-up a single train carriage, in my experience.
How quickly we forget how most adults reacted to the music we listened to in the eighties: ‘Turn that noise off! This isn’t music! It’s just a fad!’
The current state of popular rap music isn’t going to make your collection of Gang Start LP’s suddenly catch fire, so why bother getting mad about it? We don’t need any more Joe Budden’s outchea.
@DJ Blends: Can you be more specific?
This piece was just all over the place, hiphop history matter obviously, please drop the clickbait and edgelord trolling for next time. And heavy metal didn’t keep evolving since forever, “perfected long time ago” what was that about? You clearly haven’t been listening to it, so why even bring it up haha, have a good one peace
You can never dip your toe into the same river twice. Same goes for art and culture. Everything is in a state of flux. adapt or die. Jazz isn’t what it was in the 1950s. Rock isn’t what it was in the 1970s. Hip Hop isn’t what you thought it would be back in the 90s.
I was a teen in the 90s and did my best to know my shit and build what has become a massive rap album library (I was going to call it “impressive” but it’s only impressive to fellow rap nerds).
Kids these days are too busy having sex to the soundtrack of whatever’s streaming on Spotify/deezer to give a shit about Cold Chillin or some deservedly obscure b-side from some boring “real hip hop” “pioneer.” There are no record stores and hard copy recordings are for sad old men like me; not da yufe of today.
Again, all these types of articles overlook the role corporate American plays into hip-hop, which very much accounts for a lot of the changes in hip-hop over the past couple decades. Hip-Hop is now pop music (very much like how rock became pop music at a certain point), and there’s obviously been a significant change in the business of hip-hop since it’s start in the 70’s. Point being there’s obviously more at work than just “old people like this, young people like this”; it’s much more complicated than that, and I think comparing, say, Gang Starr with Lil’ Yachty is a false equivalency for various reasons (context is everything).
Look, I get that the “get-off-my-lawn” purist types are obnoxious as fuck, but let’s not make sweeping, regressive generalizations on some “hip-hop history doesn’t matter” nonsense. And there will always be young folks who will dig deeper into hip-hop’s history, as in those who are beyond casual fans of music (regardless of genre).
@Robbie I feel what your saying..I have no problem with Hip Hop evolving…but there’s a difference between natural progression and someone pushing a sound down your throat…natural progression is A tribe called quests 1st 3 albums..unnatural is Be, Finding Forever and then Universal Mind Control…
Also, My parents thought my music was noise cause they never heard rap before…difference between the youth and “Old Heads” now is we do know hip hop…we do understand it…we know what good and bad hip hop sounds like so the hate that a Lil Yachty may be getting just may be some Heads who have listen to hip hop their whole lives just making an honest call on the quality of music he makes.. to be honest it goes deeper than hip hop…most people in different genres are not feeling what is being made today because there is such a push to keep everything young but I remember coming up and Stevie Wonder and Pattie Labelle was still having hits several decades into their careers cuz Good music was Good music..the problem now ismost young people getting into music are really not music people so the love for the art isn’t there…cats just wanna be able to post a pic on instagram with them holding a stack of money to their ear…in the past for hip hop it worked…we forget Nas was 16 on Barbq…That Pete and
continued(accidentally hit the say it button lol) q-tip was in their teens when they changed not just the music but the way it was produced…Thats why I say trying to hold on to that “Hip Hop is young peoples music is a bad idea in 2017…
YO!!!! HIP-HOP WAS NEVER ON THE RADIO!!! Even back in the day (unless you were in NYC).
Sorry but any other genre of music this doesn’t apply one bit and you’re leaving out the fact that Hip Hop Music calls out WACK RAPPERS/SUCKER MCS!
Trap Music is NOT Hip Hop Music!
A White guy from New Zealand or Austria where ever you’re from doesn’t understand New York Music!!!!!!
I couldn’t disagree more with this article. YOU SOLD OUT,ROBBO! Go Back to listening to AC/ DC.
Agree about the corporate influence that has changed hip hop. Another factor is hip hop was always about renovating previous genre records (sampling and looping) from Herc to Biggie. Now cats and labels can’t afford to pay royalities because our generation (30+) killed profits when we first found limewire/kazaa. So artists had to create the “hip hop” sound and thus can’t achieve it so wack beats rule. Without the boom bap the MC can’t work (never agreed with guru that its mostly the voice!) Paul C must turn in his grave.
For the record @Robbie I may disagree with you on this but you have always repped for the real so I have no issues with you.
That was one of the few times in the history of the internet that I have enjoyed an article AND the comments section of a thing equally. I can see both sides, but I’m kind of with you on this @Robbie. Let the kids have their fun- jesus, it’s not like everything that came out in the 90s was amazing anyway. For every classic track there are three Igpayatlinlays, Helluvas or Black Vagina Findas. I’m not saying all these mumbling youths are any better, but like current slang, clubbing or chatting up girls in their 20s, they also arent any of my business. J-zone knows the score: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdmTob7GhVo
@ Robbie Rap evolves into whatever it needs to be at the time.
To me it’s DEVOLVING, there is no soul in it and most of these clowns can’t rhyme on beat or even pronounce words properly, the Industry has raped and abused Hip Hop for a long time that it has now got to the stage where all of the past rules to this game (don’t bite, be original, pay your dues, brush up on your skills) have been thrown out of the window.
The ignorance of wack, auto-tune using non-rhymers like Lil Yachty is mind boggling, they diss old music yet admit to only hear a couple of songs where there is a World of information right there at their fingertips.
But they prefer to act like coons and constantly show off their superficial BS while steadily killing off a culture they have no business being in and I’ll bet that @Paul H NEVER listens to horrible shit like Lil Pump and if he has I’m sure he hasn’t enjoyed it…that’s why we are as “obnoxious as fuck” brah, they are killing off a culture and art form that we hold dear to our hearts.
So in essence fuck the industry, fuck mumble rap, fuck trap and fuck anyone that defends this horrible shit made my truly talent-less clowns only looking for fame and money.
@Paul H: Agreed about the role that the music industry etc. has played in this, I should have addressed that.
Hip Hop history matters to a lot of us, but my point is that just because some new rap dude doesn’t know who Biggie is doesn’t invalidate their music automatically.
Funny how you all miss the point in the article. Well most of ya anyways! Why the fuck should we care bout commercial music? I don’t care if hot 97 calls it hip hop or rap or what not. Turn off the radio! Its almost as distasteful to see Joe budden wilding out bout 19 yr old mumblers not knowing a history they ain’t part of anyway. Paul H. U on point! The industry always fuck up what’s good! I don’t think that a punk listening to old Black Flag albums could give a flying fuck about Green Day. Cuz shit ain’t the same, no matter if its both called punk rock! Why should any of us over 30 dudes give a fuck? I rather listen to ROC Marci or Booze Bruvaz if I want some new shit! Not lil Uzi nerd! Keeping it CRC is not the same as whining over 19 year olds who only knows tupac! If ur best argument is the color of Robbie’s skin u just ignorant!
Why duz ‘Muricanz confuse Australia with Austria?
@Pete Concrete – Yeah, the punk comparison is pretty apt. Commercialization dilutes everything, but like hip-hop, there’s still great punk out there if you search for it, and like hip-hop (or any genre), there are a lot of tedious-as-fuck “purist” acts that think that having a great record collection automatically equals music that can compete with the classics.
Hip-Hop will thrive, and honestly, in a lot of ways, I think some of the best hip-hop in years has been coming out as of recent. Ka and Roc Marciano are two of the best dudes doing it, and it helps that they seem totally invested and laser-point focused in their art, rather than falling victim to Budden-style didacticism.
@Robbie
Melle Mel thought that guys like KRS-One and Public Enemy were trash when they played at Latin Quarter because they didn’t fit in with his idea of what good rapping was
Nope! Facts are wrong there homeskillet!
https://allhiphop.com/2017/02/09/chris-rock-says-jumped-gang-claims-melle-mel-hated-hip-hop-group-public-enemy/
Chris Rock also relayed a story that claimed that Furious 5 group member Melle Mel was a hater on legendary group Public Enemy, specifically when their classic Hip-Hop track open “Rebel Without a Pause” was released.
“Melle Mel get pissed the f##k off every time he heard that s##t because he thought Chuck was taking his s##t, and that motherf##ker would walk to the DJ booth and skip the record.”
@Wicked22: Cool story bro.
@Wicked22 – Coincidence that the 2 best Hip Hop Records recorded are “Rebel” and “The Message”
(Note – any kids reading this can google those tracks – real hip hop you see :-)
Ps – The 3rd is “I Know You Got Soul”
This was shared in the Facebook comments: Ad Rock agrees https://youtu.be/23ZlUOeiCqo?t=5m42s
Why do people still get off on pretending to be me? smfh
Anyways, clowns like Lil Uzi Vert are NOT HipHop. And if Trap Music was HipHop it would be called HipHop. Not sure why there’s people out there that feel the need to label mumble fgts and trap crap as HipHop. And like JMS said, this shit is DEVOLVING and there’s literally NO SOUL!! Sad, but true. smh
“I remember coming up and Stevie Wonder & Pattie Labelle was still having hits several decades into their careers cuz Good music was Good music..the problem now is most young people getting into music are really not music people so the love for the art isn’t there” – jay
^AGREED!!
Why would you defend “cooning”? Lost Grown up Crack babies from the South ruining a beautiful music?
Now it’s fly to diss Real Hip Hop Music? And defend uncle toms with accents worse than Chicken George?????
The south ruined it more than big corporations. Country ass illerate Bamas who dress like girls.
Now it’s “cool” to defend them??????
Melle Mel is bi-polar by the way, he’s a horrible example.
Robbie: “This was shared in the Facebook comments: Ad Rock agrees”
Just cause it’s said by Ad Rock or ANY hip hop pioneer don’t make it the absolute truth or even right. One of the reasons rap music is the way it is now is cause of the young kids not doing the knowledge.
Are y’all still arguing over this? Have you no respect for the originators? Vanilla Ice will be spinning in his grave. We all know Miley Cyrus and Souljahboy Tellem birthed the 7 elements. I’m fed up with rap documentaries using that same footage of Ryan seacrest riding his Segway with the big speakers through the streets of Alaska where it all began.
Any one of the commenters lurking…who know me since xxl…know I’ve been saying for a minute now…contemporary rap will be the “new hip hop genre”…so industry can collect lost revenue from dormant publishing…hip hop fans can enjoy their 35+ years of cuts…and young heads can have their lane…radio has already adopted the format in many states…shoutout to Dallas Penn…xxlmag (when dp, Ron Mexico & Bol blogged)…bboycult…and killa mike (u can google the xxl blog mike did on this discussion)…where the music is has already been predicted…why the c-sections are empty too…
This shyt reads like DJ Wakademiks wrote it.
New and Young has no bearing on what’s quality or GOOD music.
Rosewood, Rosati, Hus Kingpin, Nick Grant and others are all NEW/Young rappers who rhyme in actual English and still sample. Too many cop out ass writers, fake @ss tastemakers and DJs settle for less and try and underplay the actual Hip Hop out for what’s popular.
Stop being sellouts and appreciate the good records that are CURRENTLY out!
@Robbie, I understand your piece. It was written “matter of factly.” Today’s rap audience does not care about the old school….but they should. The beef with today’s rappers is simply the fact that most of them cannot actually rap but the truth is, the biggest sellers are the ones who can. Kendrick, Drake and J. Cole are doing superstar numbers. They happen to be true students of the artform.