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Even Free Rap Shows Are A Rip-Off Now

Posted on November 30, 2010December 24, 2019 by Robbie Ettelson

So there was a free show the other night featuring Jean Grae and Pharoahe Monch, which isn’t really a big deal since I never really pay to get in anyways and I don’t really know a song that either of ’em have done for the last five years, but eff it. First thing I noticed that were a lot of broads around, which is pretty unusual for a scumbag spot like this one but always a positive. Did all this gals roll up to hear ‘Simon Says’? On closer inspection, I noticed that 85% of these chicks appeared to be on some of that old rug munch status, and then the penny dropped. ‘Oh shit, Jean got this girl-on-girl rap audience in a headlock!’. There also seemed to be your usual fudge pudge of type-Emo rap fans and J. Bieber wannabes, which seems to be par for the course in this fruit basket we call hip-hop now.

Regardless, I was interested to see how the show might progress. When Jean hit the stage, she had long abandoned the old head librarian steez she was rocking in that My Mic Sounds Nice documentary for a tight leather jacket and M.I.A hairdo, accompanied by a bootleg Caron Wheeler and Mr. Len was on the deck. Since a whole lot of sangin’ was going on, so I kinda tuned-out for a while at this point until Ms. Grae took her jacket off and exposed what can best be described as a fair rack. I’m not sure if this and her tatts got me open or if the quality of the last couple of songs suddenly improved dramatically, but I found myself suddenly inching closer to the stage and nodding my head…

A few beers later and Prince Po‘s old buddy turned up wearing a flack jacket with a weed carrier in tow. This weed holder dude turned out to be a kid named Showtime, who is pretty much the most energetic hypeman of all time. At various points in the set of Monch songs which I hardly knew, this little character danced, performed back-ups and sang – usually all at the same time – and at one point was spinning around while hollering at the top of his lungs on what can only be described as James-Brown-on-some-Exorcist shit. This was all fairly amusing, especially the brief trick routine from X-Men Total Eclipse and Boogie Blind, but then things took a turn for the worse. Monch suddenly announces that he’s going to share the ‘future of hip-hop’ with us – which usually means that his weed stasher has his blunt rolled – but in this case, he wheeled out some 12 year-old cracker dressed like…you guessed it…Justin Bieber.

I’m not gonna rag on the kid for dressing like a douche hammer, since that’s what kids do, but the little midget then proceeded to drop a freestyle that even Markey Mark would have grimaced at. So I started screaming abuse from the audience about how he should fuck off and get ready for his paper route the next day, assuming that other more discerning members of the crowd might support my heckling with some booing of their own. Turns out that the crowd thought this junior rapper dude was cute as a button and started cheering him as if he’d just spat the first verse of ‘Prisoners of War’…. to add insult to injury, Monch dropped the beat for ‘Stress’ and then decided to cut it after only four member of the audience sang along to the hook! Simon says go kill yourself. As with the Grae set, things ended strongly for the Pharoahe as he kicked a sick rhyme over what sounded like the beat for Godfather Don’s ‘Seeds of Hate’ (aka some David Axelrod), but once again I was left feeling shot-changed by the whole experience. Live rap stays losing.

52 thoughts on “Even Free Rap Shows Are A Rip-Off Now”

  1. PAS says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    I dunno, it sounds like you didnt really care for a live show this particular evening..but it was kind of amusing reading this and then at the end, the ticket ads for Phish and Black Eyed Peas!

  2. CrateDigga78 says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    Agree with PAS that although you obviously didn’t have a great time on the night, it’s funny to rread about ! Hopefully that Wild Pitch Reunion Tour with Lord Finesse, Extra P & OC will be dope.

  3. Blake says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    Always appreciate your writings, Robbie. These two were in New Zealand recently, but it was not free. Next up is Mos Def. I have high hopes for him live. Should I?

  4. iLLa says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    i dunno man but i heard monch on black milk and on consequence and he killed them. so i was thinking he was gonna come out with a new banger. jean grae has alwasy been dope, she shouldve brought 9th wonder with her.

  5. AK says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    if you haven’t heard a new pharahe song for five years you should check his cover of welcome to the terrordome.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw7t3kxiheo

    pure energy!

  6. Ghetto Vader says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    Robbie u Such a Bitch ass Fake nigga
    please bro if and when i catch u cause u keep duckin Me like the Bitch u are
    but my Spies in Australia are very close.
    u will get a Beat Down 4 me Ghetto Vader.
    when u come 2 the states you Gonna get it,
    Word is Born

  7. dj blendz says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    both these artists have a dope catalog,in Monch case he got classics..hard for me to believe u was disappointed..probably was just an off-night for them that’s all

  8. AK says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    pharoahe that is.. yes, his verse on consequences last mixtape was dope too..

  9. djbosscrewwrecka says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    Blake – I saw Mos Def touring Black On Both Sides. He had a live band and kept breaking down in the middle of his songs to sing / get funky / show his artistic side. Fucking shambolic, even for a hip hop show.

  10. eric nord says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    When you consider that most rap shows are essentially glorified karaoke sessions… it’s not hard to understand why they usually disappoint.

  11. 2020Proof says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    At least you didn’t pay 20 dollars this year to see Monch perform a 30 minute set that had him forgetting his rhymes and skipping over his early material.

  12. Robbie says:
    November 30, 2010 at

    @Ghetto Vader: No you won’t. Who are you again?

  13. Jesse says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    I blame that shithole The Espy, why do promoters keep booking shows there? Actually, why did it become such a shithole in the first place? Did you see Percee P though? I had a chat with him at wax Museum, he was ridiculously friendly.

  14. ddc says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    “12 year old cracker”. how many times did you proof read this and still thought it’s cool?

  15. Marc Davis says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Happy Born Day Robbie!!! Thanks for keeping the real Hip Hop alive kid!!!

  16. Robbie says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    ^ Thanks, although it’s not until the 15th…

  17. Peak Street says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Bahahahahaha. OUTSTANDING SIR! How the fuck am I supposed to write a review even remotely comparable now?

  18. Peak Street says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Also tell us you got a Percee interview?

  19. brytburken says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Nice writing.

    I also saw Pharoahe Monch live once, for free.

    I also was disappointed (I’m a big fan of his).

  20. Sam says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    ” “12 year old cracker”. how many times did you proof read this and still thought it’s cool? ”

    agreed, best look in the mirror.

  21. Krisch says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    FCB!

  22. steezolini says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    cracker??
    we all whiteboys here, wigga…

  23. Robbie says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Oh word you can rap along to NWA but can’t say ‘cracker’ without getting emotional? Shame on you, paleface.

  24. ?uestion Marc says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Saw them in NY last month. It was cool. The monch set was too short and Jean’s was a bit too long and dragging. But no denying they’re great MCs.

    FYI: the Caron Wheeler lookalike is called
    Mela Machinko (she’s on Pharoahe’s Desire album)

  25. ddc says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    ive never been mistaken for paleface in my life. quite the opposite. your justification is weak. i know i cant change the world. im responsible for just my family.

  26. chronwell says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Monch suddenly announces that he’s going to share the ‘future of hip-hop’ with us – which usually means that his weed stasher has his blunt rolled \
    ^HAHAHA! Slim! U a wild boy!Also U right, Jean Grae is deceptively fine in person!

  27. Saratoga N. Blake says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Jean Grae is FAR from a ‘great MC.” Great complainer, yes, and one who is capable of decent guest spots but she’s on the margins not because of some sexist conspiracy but because she’s MARGINAL– just like the vast majority of male rappers, btw.

    On her 20th anniversary in hip-hop are we still going to be making excuses?

    Pharoah is on a different stratum altogether tho’ I’ve never heard anyone say he was an exceptional live performer.

  28. S says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Alot of cats have catalogs and classics but can’t translate to a live show. I just saw Nas at a free show, show was terrible and he was rockin with a band. That shit was the most disappointing event I’ve ever been to in my life.

  29. bboycult says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    Damn I wish I could’ve seen those Jean Greasy Tittays!!!! In all seriousness muhfuckas… If Jean spittin; you movin to the front of the stage PERIOD.

  30. $yk says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    LoLz!

    Can’t say I’m surprised either…a lot of these cats fail onstage…

  31. Saratoga N. Blake says:
    December 1, 2010 at

    KRS-One fucking delivers, always, live.

    Is there anyone in hip-hop history who comes close?

    I’m tempted to say PE but… no, not really. Hard to do the Bomb Squad justice live and Flav is too unpredictable.

    Big Daddy Kane with a live band was hot in BK last year but it was nearly all oldies.

    Smif N Wessun with a live band were very good, actually, and they’re not dudes you’d think of as being super-dynamic live.

  32. AFFEX says:
    December 2, 2010 at

    Yo Robbie…

    I was there with 2 chicks and my boy from Marcy, NY…I tried to holla, buy you a coldie but the super shit crowd was unbearable.

    Monch’s set was ehhhh….

    one of my favorites and I left thinking…WTF??

    Anyway, im waiting for the Trem album…fuck everything else

  33. Enig Mue says:
    December 2, 2010 at

    Jean Grae fine as hell when I got to see her live, worth stalking I’d guess.
    anyway, you sound jaded, yall nyc cats can’t appreciate a free show anymore?

  34. LEX says:
    December 2, 2010 at

    haha.. dope read.. You should probably make half an attempt to enjoy yourself next time you go to a show tho..

  35. LEX says:
    December 2, 2010 at

    lol @ you heckling and no-one joining in.

  36. gstatty says:
    December 2, 2010 at

    Last time I liked Jean Grae’s raps were with kool keith, bobbito and eon on hands on experience, that song was hilarious. Also some other song I can’t remember about hennessey with the alias what what. I honestly haven’t liked monch’s shit since the organized konfusion days. Jean Grae’s tweets are hella strange. I used to like Jean Grae, but everytime she opened her mouth on the Polyrhythm addicts album I switched tracks.

  37. dj blendz says:
    December 3, 2010 at

    ^u sure it was Jean? I always thought it was Tiye Phoenix on them Polyrhythm joints

  38. Saratoga N. Blake says:
    December 3, 2010 at

    PS– Forgot peak-era LL… Second best live MC after Kris.

  39. swordfish says:
    December 3, 2010 at

    das bier für profis? prost!

  40. Crisis says:
    December 3, 2010 at

    I have to say I’m bummed I missed Monch & Grae in Adel due to work (the main reason I miss alot of shows!). I still bump Internal Affairs and I stan on The Jeanius quite a bit but judging by your review it doesn’t sound as though I missed much. I am looking forward to Cake or Death though!!!

  41. Crisis says:
    December 3, 2010 at

    Btw: speaking of Bieber anyone seen/heard him dropping bars on Tim (tha big dawwwwg) Westwoods show? Shit is shocking. Now that was some real Markey Mark Warlberg type ish!

  42. gstatty says:
    December 3, 2010 at

    @dj blendz yup I think you are right, tiye phoenix actually replaced apani b in the polyrhythm addicts, they both actually sound like jean grae. So I guess jean grae still gets a pass.

  43. coozy says:
    December 5, 2010 at

    Saw Pharoahe play in Welly on the same tour and mercifully (by the sounds of it) that kid didn’t get a visa to NZ.
    Though please explain the tie-in between this story and the Bayern beer cup and free gigs.

  44. Lewie says:
    December 6, 2010 at

    Robbie, you gotta be at least like 33… how did it feel booing a 12 year old?

    P.S. you not from NYC

  45. Robbie says:
    December 7, 2010 at

    ^ Fuckin’ hippy.

  46. bitter monk says:
    December 9, 2010 at

    @Saratoga N. Blake: regarding peak-era L, true indeed and well-said. also, about Jean Grae, you are spot-on. i never really liked her emceeing. i don’t dislike it, but she’s kinda neither hot or cold to me. i don’t think it matters if Mr. Len, Bazarro, or anyone else spins for her. on to the song i would go.

  47. ED209 says:
    December 9, 2010 at

    Triumph of hope of certain knowledge Rob.

  48. getthesenets says:
    December 10, 2010 at

    “sing along to nwa” and can’t say cracker.

    funny & true….

    the review of this show is more entertaining than what the concert seemed to have been.

    “would make marky mark cringe”….you win with that line

  49. MLEpdx says:
    December 11, 2010 at

    @Blake: Like djbosscrewwrecka says, the Mos Def shows these days are pretty wack. Saw him at Rock the Bells a couple of years ago. It was so bad that people started throwing stuff at him and he chastised them by saying, “I don’t go to your job and throw things at you!” Apparently, that’s what his shows are to him now…just a job. He doesn’t put his heart into it anymore, which is sad.

  50. Jacks says:
    December 17, 2010 at

    “I started screaming abuse from the audience about how he should fuck off and get ready for his paper route the next day, assuming that other more discerning members of the crowd might support my heckling with some booing of their own. Turns out that the crowd thought this junior rapper dude was cute as a button and started cheering him as if he’d just spat the first verse of ‘Prisoners of War’…”

    the fuck?

    what ever happened to heckling motherfuckers off stage?

  51. dale d says:
    December 29, 2010 at

    good emcees doesnt always mean good show. having a good show is a natural thing. last emporer kills the live show. so does planet asia, el da sensei, c rayz walz and all stronghold cats.

  52. James says:
    January 10, 2011 at

    Ahhh racism and heckling, I can see why you got the hookup at the door. You a classy motherfucker.

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